1142 ROUTE 311
MINUTES
PRESENT: MICHAEL
JOSEPH CAPASSO, COUNCILMAN
ERNEST KASSAY, COUNCILMAN
GINNY NACERINO, DEPUTY SUPERVISOR
ANTOINETTE KOPECK, TOWN CLERK
JENNIFER HERODES, TOWN COUNSEL
Salute to the Flag and Roll Call.
Supervisor
AUDIT OF BILLS
Mrs. Nacerino made a motion to approve the following bills chargeable to 2008:
General Fund $88,785.82, Highway Fund Item 1- General Repairs $53,577.61, Highway Fund Item 3-Machinery $12,512.97, Highway Fund-Item 4-Miscellaneous $1,272.33, Highway Fund – Employee Benefits $16,064.98, Highway Fund – Contract $45.00, Waste Water Treatment Plant $16,702.22, Capital Fund $21,161.12, Putnam Lake Refuse District #1 $28,522.02, Patterson Refuse District #2 $31,545.05, Deerwood Drainage District $15.51, Patterson Park District $1,268.75, Alpine Water District $761.19, Fox Run Water District $1,795.60, Trust & Agency $26,769.00, Grand Total Abstract $300,799.17.
Seconded by Mr. Kassay. Roll Call Vote: Mr. Capasso; yes, Mr. Kassay; yes, Mrs. Nacerino; yes, Mr. O’Connor; yes, Mr. Griffin; yes. Roll Call Vote Carried.
ERNEST KASSAY
VACATION REQUEST
Mr. Kassay made a motion
to approve the vacation request dated
Seconded by Mrs. Nacerino. All In Favor: Aye. Carried.
ESCROW
Mr. Kassay stated it has come to my attention that a piece of paperwork has not been generated as of yet regarding the Escrow Release for Highway.
Mr. Kassay made a motion
to table the above noted until the next Town Board meeting on
Seconded by Mrs. Nacerino. All In Favor: Aye. Carried.
TOWN COMPTROLLER’S BUDGET TRANSFER REQUESTS
Mr. Kassay made a motion
for the Town Board to approve the Budget Transfer Requests dated
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Seconded by Mrs. Nacerino. All In Favor: Aye. Carried.
ADVERTISE
Mr. Kassay stated last Wednesday,
Mr. Kassay made a motion
to authorize the Town Clerk to advertise a Public Hearing for a Four Way Stop
Sign at
Seconded by Mrs. Nacerino. All In Favor: Aye. Carried.
Ms. Herodes stated you are going to put four on every one.
Mr. Kassay stated yes.
ADVERTISE
Mr. Kassay made a motion
to authorize the Town Clerk to advertise a Public Hearing for one stop sign
going Northbound on
Seconded by Mrs. Nacerino. All In Favor: Aye. Carried.
ADVERTISE
Mr. Kassay made a motion
to authorize the Town Clerk to advertise a Public Hearing for a stop sign at
Seconded by Mrs. Nacerino. All In Favor: Aye. Carried.
GINNY NACERINO
LIBRARY REQUEST – DUMPSTER
Mrs. Nacerino stated in accordance with the contract
agreement that we have with the library we agreed to authorize to provide a
dumpster for them. Apparently, the
dumpster they have now is in deplorable condition and they asked the Town Board
to replace it. I spoke with Frank
Farrell,
EXECUTIVE SESSION PERSONNEL
Mrs. Nacerino stated I will defer my Executive Session Personnel to the end of the meeting.
MICHAEL
BIG ELM SUBDIVISION DRAINAGE DISTRICT
Mr. Griffin stated there was a meeting with the homeowners
at Big Elm subdivision, which is located off
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asked them to come to a meeting. The general opinion of the homeowners was that they did not wish to reestablish the HOA instead they would like to have the Town form a drainage district and maintain the pond and they would be billed in their taxes.
Mr. Griffin asked Ms. Herodes to work with Mr. Williams, Town Planner to prepare the paperwork to create the district.
CURTISS, LEIBELL, HERODES & MOLÉ CONTRACT
Mr.
Ms. Herodes stated no.
Mr. Griffin stated “Civil Litigation” is everything other than criminal, right.
Ms. Herodes stated yes. We could change them both to “General.” I think they are just trying to distinguish that you realize that it encompasses the Town with an entity and not just the Town with a person.
Mr. Griffin stated the rate has been raised to $125.00 per hour. Section 8 talks about the law firm; properly maintain a detailed log and time and disbursement records relative to and temporarily with all the services rendered. What we are looking for is to keep track of the contractual portion, how many hours you are working on that.
Ms. Herodes stated I can’t speak for the entire firm on this point. I will take that up with my partners. We can certainly do that but there is a lot of time involved in keeping your time. I will get back to you on that.
Mr. Griffin stated ok. The contract also says you will represent us in Civil and General Litigation etc., and on a number of occasions we need a special counsel because of conflicts of interest, and in the past, we always pay for that bill. If that is a basic service you are supposed to be providing to us and because you are in a conflict of interest situation and we need special counsel is there any consideration that you will pay those bills.
Ms. Herodes stated I will have to bring that up with the firm. That is the way our contract has always been.
Town Board members, Ms. Herodes and Mr. Williams continued to discuss the contract with the law firm.
Mr. Griffin asked Ms. Herodes to research special counsel and provide us with the answer at the next Town Board meeting.
Mr. Griffin stated since the County ceased doing recycling
the
Mr. Kassay stated I like the latter.
Mr. Griffin stated is that the consensus of the Board.
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Mr. Capasso stated exactly, we shouldn’t take it for nothing.
Town Board members do not think it would work.
NEW COURTHOUSE/CELL TOWER/JEANNITON PROPERTY/QUEST
PROPOSAL/EMINENT DOMAIN
Mr. Griffin stated a few meetings ago we had tabled the
Quest asbestos abatement specifications preparation and bidding process because
of some confusion. The Town Planner has
sent us a memo; The Town has received an
estimate providing asbestos abatement services from Quest Diagnostics. The proposal submitted was for Houses 14, 16,
18 and 20. There has been some confusion
since the house numbers referenced by Quest do not match the house numbers on
other documents or those used by the Town.
A description of each property by house number can be found in the
Predemolition Reports dated
Mr. Griffin introduced the following Resolution Authorization to Engage the Services of Quality
Environmental Solutions and Technology Inc. for $18,764.00 as a starting
point for asbestos abatement pre-bid for the demolition of the properties at
R-0608-03
WHEREAS, the Town of Patterson desires to obtain environmental consulting and remediation services for the asbestos abatement specification preparation and bidding process relating to the property intended to be acquired by the Town of Patterson for the construction of a new courthouse, and
WHEREAS, QUALITY ENVIRONMENTAL SOLUTIONS & TECHNOLOGIES, INC., 1376 Route 9, Wappingers Falls, New York 12590, has offered to provide said services at the cost shown on the May 2, 2008 proposal, a copy of which is attached hereto and made a part hereof , and
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Patterson hereby accepts the proposal of QUALITY ENVIRONMENTAL SOLUTIONS & TECHNOLOGIES, INC., 1376 Route 9, Wappingers Falls, New York 12590, to provide said services at the cost shown on the May 2, 2008 proposal, a copy of which is attached hereto and made part hereof, and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Town Board of Patterson
hereby authorizes the Supervisor to execute any and all documents necessary to
give effect to this resolution, including authority to sign an agreement with
QUALITY ENVIRONMENTAL SOLUTIONS & TECHNOLOGIES, INC. on the behalf of the
Town of
Seconded by Mr. O’Connor.
Mrs. Nacerino stated discussion. Is there a cap on this.
Mr. Griffin stated no, if you read Quest’s proposal it talks about actual costs or job specifics based on asbestos contractors scheduling shifts, number of work areas etc. clients will be charged for actual services provided and samples analyzed.
Mr. Capasso stated is that for all the removal too.
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Mr. Griffin stated the demolition is not included. They will supervise the removal of the asbestos because they have to do air monitoring, samples and they have to ensure the contractors properly dismantle the buildings and properly dispose of it. They have to produce a significant amount of reports to the Department of Labor.
All In Favor: Aye. Roll Call Vote: Mr. Capasso; yes, Mr. Kassay; yes, Mrs. Nacerino; yes, Mr. O’Connor; yes, Mr. Griffin; yes. Roll Call Vote Carried.
Mr. Raines asked that his office get a scope of work so he can make sure it will follow DOL and OSHA.
Mr. Griffin stated yes.
NEW COURT HOUSE
Mr. Griffin asked Mr. Williams if he received an offer from Verizon for a contract to place a cell tower on the Harbby property.
Mr. Williams, Town Planner stated we were looking at options to try to fund the courthouse project. Verizon approached the Town and they were looking to site a cell tower in the area. They have come up with a couple of different locations. They came to the Board and asked them if there was any interest. The Board expressed an interest. We received contracts and we sent them to the Town Attorney strictly for review. I did receive a call from Verizon inquiring whether the project was going to go forward or not. I don’t have an answer at this point. I understand there are some reservations at this point.
Mr. Griffin stated the project is definitely going to move forward. The question is whether or not we want to pursue the Harbby property. My general consensus in talking with my colleagues on the Board is that the cell tower is not something they are interested in. Just be aware they are actively pursuing a location on Peckham’s property as well and they are very aggressively looking for a property in the Hamlet area.
Mr. Williams stated are we saying no to the Harbby property.
Mr. Griffin stated that is something that the Board is going to have to discuss in Executive Session.
Ms. Herodes stated do you have that on for Executive Session.
Mr. Griffin made a motion to add Executive Session Legal to the agenda.
Seconded by Mr. Kassay. All In Favor: Aye. Carried.
JEANNITON PROPERTY
Mr. Griffin stated Ms. Herodes has done an outstanding job of negotiating a price of $465,000.00 down to $372,000.00. At this point, it would eliminate the need for Eminent Domain and that will lead to a short sale:
Mr. Griffin introduced the following Resolution for Authorization to Sign Contracts for the Purchase of Real
Property Near
R-0608-04
WHEREAS, the town of
WHEREAS, a thorough search of the properties available in
the Town of
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construction is located behind the Patterson Town Hall, and is designated as Tax Map Numbers 3.16-1-21, 3.16-1-22 and 3.16-1-23, and 12 William Street, respectively, (hereinafter referred to as the “parcels” or the “subject Parcels”) and
WHEREAS, the Town of Patterson wishes to sign the Residential Contracts of Sale to Purchase from William Jeanniton and Linda Jeanniton the properties known as 16 – 18 Leibell Place, Patterson New York 12563, 20 Leibell Place Patterson, New York 12563, and 12 William Street, Patterson New York 12563, and
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, THAT THE Town Board of the Town of Patterson hereby accepts the terms of the residential Contract of Sale to purchase from William Jeanniton and Linda Jeanniton the properties know as 16 – 18 Leibell Place, Patterson, New York 12563, 20 Leibell Place, Patterson, New York 12563, and 12 William Street, Patterson, New York 12563, in the form attached hereto and made a part hereof, and hereby authorizes the Supervisor of the Town of Patterson to sign said Contracts of Sale, in the form attached hereto and make a part hereof, and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Patterson hereby authorizes the Supervisor to execute any and all other documents necessary to give effect to this resolution on behalf of the Town of Patterson, including signing of any and all documents required to close the transaction in this matter.
Mr. Griffin stated this also involves us having a closing on the property next Wednesday.
Seconded by Mrs. Nacerino. All In Favor: Aye. Roll Call Vote: Mr. Capasso; yes, Mr. Kassay; yes, Mrs. Nacerino; yes, Mr. O’Connor; yes, Mr. Griffin; yes. Roll Call Vote Carried.
NOBLET VS TOP – APPEAL
Mr. Griffin stated Mr. Noblet is still unhappy about Burdick
Farms Subdivision and he has filed an appeal.
We will have to respond to the appeal by
Mr. Griffin made a motion that we authorize the Town Attorney to respond to the Noblet appeal and take all necessary actions to defend the Towns position.
Seconded by Mr. O’Connor. All In Favor: Aye. Carried.
SPECIAL COUNSEL – FOX RUN PHASE II
Mr. Griffin stated we will table this until we decide there aren’t any more conflicts.
Mr. Griffin stated we had a request from
PATTERSON HISTORICAL SOCIETY REQUEST
Mr. Griffin stated Patterson Historical Society would like
to donate a map of
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gold painted wood frame, UV glass and mountings for $500.00. Michaels offered to do a metal frame to match the frames in the Town Hall with the UV glass and mountings for $250.00.
Mr. Griffin made a motion to authorize the Historical Society to have the “1854 O’Connor” map framed for an amount not to exceed $275.00.
Seconded by Mrs. Nacerino. All In Favor: Aye. Carried.
HIGHWAY CONTRACT – REQUEST NEGOTIATIONS
Mr. Griffin stated the President of the
Mr. Kassay and Mrs. Nacerino stated I would like to be involved.
Mr. Griffin stated Ms. Herodes you will have to be involved also.
Ms. Herodes stated ok.
Mr. Griffin stated I will set up a meeting.
JOSEPH CAPASSO
RECREATION COMPUTER SERVER
Mr. Capasso stated we have received a lot of complaints about the server being in a room without air conditioning. I have some estimates for putting an air conditioner in the room but Dave Raines, Code Enforcement Officer and I recommend that we move the server out of that room and put it in a room with existing air conditioning. It would save the Town a lot of money. I would like the Town Board’s approval to research exactly what it would cost to move the server rather than buy an air conditioner.
Mr. Kassay stated yes, I would appreciate it.
Mr. O’Connor stated it sounds logical to me.
Mr. Dave Raines stated Brian O’Hara the acting Fire Inspector is an IT Specialist, Mr. Capasso and myself looked at it and we had some companies come in to give us proposals on putting in an air conditioner. Their costs ran anywhere from $2,000.00 to $3,000.00 to do it properly to code. A good portion of the building is air-conditioned and we do have some space. Brian looked at it from an IT perspective and moving it would be a very nominal cost. We felt that was the way to go versus trying to air condition the space. I am recommending that we evaluate the different spaces that we have and relocate the server.
All Town Board members agreed.
ACCEPT LETTER OF RESIGNATION
Mr. Capasso made a motion to accept Ms. Jean Scigliano’s letter of resignation.
Seconded by Mr. Kassay. All In Favor: Aye. Carried.
Ms. Lagan stated I would like the letter to be read.
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Mr. Capasso read the letter; It has been a pleasure working
with you. I appreciate all your efforts
to move the
I spent a good part of yesterday in discussions with Ginny and Mike.
Due to the limitations put on my efforts by the structure of my position and the recent 24-hour a week cap put on my time, I am unable to meet my own goals and expectations for the job and I have resigned the position of “part-time Recreation Supervisor.” Thank you, Jean Scigliano.
EXECUTIVE SESSION PERSONNEL
Mr. Capasso stated I would like to defer my Executive Session Personnel to the end of the meeting.
MARTINS SUBDIVISION
Mr. O’Connor stated we received a letter from the Planning
Board regarding Celeste & Francisco Martins 280-a Open Development
Area. The applicant would like to
subdivide a thirteen plus acre lot in the R-4 zoning district into three
residential lots. There is currently one
existing single family dwelling on the site.
Access to the existing dwelling is provided by a common driveway. The Planning Board approved a favorable
referral to the Town Board for the Martins Subdivision Open Development Area as
shown on the Preliminary Subdivision Plat.
I received a letter on
Mr. Kassay and Mr. Capasso stated I agree.
Mr.
Mr. O’Connor stated it was discussed individually there wasn’t a meeting.
Mrs. Nacerino stated I think we would be fair to give the Planning Board the opportunity to respond. I am curious to know why they are favoring an open development area. I have deep concerns about this matter.
Mr. David Pierro, Vice Chairman, Planning Board stated we
made a recommendation to suggest to you the Board that a positive decision be
made on the 280-a. It does have frontage
on
Mrs. Nacerino stated each project is case by case. There are deep concerns with having two common driveways with easements in addition to concerns about the driveways and the easements that we would like some clarifications.
Mr. Pierro stated I think you are incorrect. I believe there is one common driveway.
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Mrs. Nacerino stated there is a proposed other common
driveway. You have
Mr. Pierro stated there is one common driveway to service two houses. The option for the other lot was to use the existing common driveway, which this applicant owns.
Mr. Williams stated Mrs. Nacerino you might be talking about two different projects.
Mrs. Nacerino stated the Martins subdivision and the map we were looking at yesterday.
Mr. Williams stated that is what you are referring to and he is referring to a different subdivision.
Mrs. Nacerino stated we are on the Martins subdivision.
Mr. O’Connor stated are you talking about the NRA Realty and Development.
Mr. Williams stated I have no problem naming names here. Dave is referring to the (inaudible) subdivision.
Mrs. Nacerino stated as an example. The project before us and the consideration before us tonight are in reference to the Martins subdivision.
Mr. O’Connor made a motion
to table the request for the Martins Subdivision 280-a on
Mr. O’Connor stated we received a letter from Mr. Williams,
Town Planner regarding James Maderi,
Mr. O’Connor stated it would be nice if we could resolve the
paper roads in
Ms. Herodes stated I wasn’t in the loop on this. I spoke to Mr. Molé about this and he told me Mr. Williams knows what this is about.
Mr. Williams stated Mr. Molé responded to me and in his opinion he thought it was probable that you should do road abandonment proceedings whether we actually own the road or not.
Mr. O’Connor stated it is not a road, how can we abandon it.
Ms. Herodes stated the point is we need the abstract company to tell us who has the rights.
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Mr. Raines stated I went out and looked at the property at
the request of the homeowner. There was
drainage that was installed there and a question whether the Town installed the
drainage and I believe they did. I don’t
have any documentation for that. There
is a pipe and storm drain and I don’t think the owner pointed that out. I spoke with
All parties continued to discuss the above topic.
NRA REALTY & DEVELOPMENT
Mr. O’Connor stated this is also from the Planning Board to
the Town Board. NRA Realty & Development
of Birch Hill Subdivision has a request for a review of a fourteen lot single-family
residential subdivision. It is one
hundred and fifty one acres and lots ten and eleven are proposed with fifty feet
of road frontage instead of one hundred and twenty five required.
Ms. Herodes stated this is the cabin right.
Mr. Williams stated yes.
Mrs. Herodes stated that has been resolved.
Mr. Raines stated no, it was denied.
Ms. Herodes stated resolved meaning they made their decision.
Mr. Raines stated this case was before the Zoning Board for illegal structures on this property that may or may not be incorporated into this proposed subdivision. The Zoning Board denied all the variance requests at the meeting last week and now there stands several violations on these structures that exist within this proposed subdivision.
Mrs. Nacerino stated I don’t see how we could proceed in any way with existing violations on this property.
Ms. Herodes stated this was a difficult situation. There is a lot of acreage here and there was a cabin. The cabin definition was actually written for this structure. The new owner came in and expanded the structure with an addition and by raising the heights of the variances. They were before the Zoning Board for the expansion and the height because now they did not fit the definition of a cabin under the code anymore. The reason that the Town Attorney suggested that this was the route to take was because although a subdivision plan is circling until this cabin is converted to a single family home on one of the lots it currently is in violation because it is not a single family home and it is not a cabin. That is the issue. It came before the Zoning Board and they denied the variances. Thereby leaving the applicant no other choice but to go back to convert to a single family home or be in violation.
Mrs. Nacerino stated what is the intent of the property owner.
Mr. Raines stated my letter to them dated today was to go back to the Planning Board and the Town Planner and discuss what course of action should be taken.
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Mr. O’Connor stated does this structure have a Certificate of Occupancy.
Mr. Raines stated no.
Mr. Williams stated there are a couple of choices he has at this point. He will have to bring it up to a single-family structure whether the subdivision goes forward or not. The subdivision could take two to three years. I would imagine he is going to have to do that as the subdivision process goes forward. They are proposing a new subdivision road higher up. His options are meeting the building codes for the cabin plus putting a septic and a well in for the structure. As far as the Planning Board is concerned it is whether they are going to make him pave the road and tear it up later or give him a temporary waiver until the subdivision goes through and he will immediately have to put it in from another direction.
Mr. O’Connor stated it does not have a C.O., septic, well, or electric power. Is there anything legal about this house.
Mr. Raines stated correct. It was a cabin that was illegally converted without a building permit. We found out about it through a citizen in Patterson. We investigated it and then determined that they had done all this work while they were going for a subdivision approval. My recommendation is not to take any action until the property owner approaches the Town and states what he wants to do.
Mr. O’Connor stated I think it is premature that we move forward and we should wait until we get clarification from the Planning Board as to what they should do.
Mr. O’Connor made a motion to table the request until the Planning Board can work this out further.
Seconded by Mr. Kassay. All In Favor: Aye. Carried.
NEW COUNTY LITTER LAW
Mr. O’Connor stated by a unanimous vote last week, the Putnam Legislature approved an amendment to the County’s code by adding a new section titled “Littering.” Violators of the County’s new littering law face a fine of $500.00, thirty days in jail and twenty hours of community service for first time infractions. Second time offenders will be fined $750.00, as well as being sentenced to thirty days in jail and forty hours of community service while repeat violators within a one-year period can expect to pay a fine of $1,000.00. The more people know this is unacceptable the better off we are.
PUTNAM
Mr. O’Connor stated we had a meeting this morning with both
the Putnam Lake Community Council and the concerned citizens of
Mr. Kassay stated there was an article in the paper today regarding
Mrs. Nacerino stated I went to Warren Beach and Barbara See,
President, PLCC gave me a boat ride on
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many people researching and trying to save the lake I’m sure by next year we will be in much better shape.
OTHER BUSINESS
None
PUBLIC RECOGNITION
Ms. Amy Lagan, Patterson, stated Mr. Capasso brought up the
resignation of Jean Scigliano and I first want to start by saying Jean’s premature
departure is really sad for the Town of
Mrs. Nacerino stated we are in the process of preparing the postings.
Ms. Lagan stated you are hiring a Recreation Center Supervisor part-time.
Mrs. Nacerino stated if we post it as a Recreation Director,
which is what Jean wanted that would be full-time. We were in the process of going through the
final reviews to vote on a full-time position before Jean quit. We were all disappointed that we put in so
much time and energy in this provisional appointment and it is unfortunate for
the Town and for Jean that she had chosen to quit before we made a final
decision.
Ms. Lagan stated who is now in charge of the
Mrs. Nacerino stated Raymond Blanar is presently the Sports
Supervisor. As of
Ms. Lagan stated when the time comes, who will be a part of the interview process.
Mrs. Nacerino stated that is yet to be determined.
Ms. Lagan stated who will hire this person.
Mrs. Nacerino stated the Town Board.
Ms. Lagan continued to ask questions regarding the
Ms. Lynn Andretta stated this
Mr. Richard Armistead, Patterson, stated the property that you are going to build the courthouse on there is a rumor going around that there was a $450,000.00 (inaudible) property that you have renegotiated to $372,000.00 and there was also $75,000.00 (inaudible) to take the buildings down. Is that right.
Mr. Griffin stated the basic price for the Harbby property was $350,000.00 and we agreed to pay him an additional $75,000.00 to demolish the buildings and give us a clean lot.
Ms. Herodes stated the number Mr. Armistead is quoting is for the Jennitons property.
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Mr. Armistead stated ok, its $75,000.00 to take down how many houses.
Mr. Griffin stated the estimate for doing the demolition on that property is going to be significantly higher than $75,000.00.
Mr. Armistead stated the speakers you have here are absolutely useless. There is nothing coming out of them that is why you have, and this has nothing to do with you, inaudible in your tapes. If you read the Town Board minutes…..
Mr. Griffin stated if you will forgive me, the tapes are made off of the microphone that you are not speaking into right now and that makes it a problem to hear. Everyone in the room can hear you fine the problem is you have to use the microphone to pick up what you are saying.
Mr. Armistead stated when you go into an Executive Session and you come back out, the public meeting is not over, is that correct.
Mr. Griffin stated correct.
Mr. Armistead stated if you have made any decisions in the public meeting and it was supposed to be put in the regular meeting what those decisions are, am I right. Any votes that were given.
Mr. Griffin stated any discussions that turn into voting matters are voted on when we reconvene the meeting after the Executive Session.
Mr. Armistead stated I have been going through the minutes on my computer back to 2007. I probably could have gone back further but I noticed Mr. Griffin that there is never anything that comes out of an Executive Session. I’m sure you folks go back there and you talk Town business and you do the Town bidding on a lot of issues that go on in this Town. I can’t understand why there is no decisions of any kind put into the minutes after you have had an Executive Session. Like I said, I have gone back two and three years. I can’t understand why. I’m sure you don’t just go in there and talk. I’m sure you make very logical decisions in there but it is never put in the Town minutes.
Mr. Griffin stated occasionally there are instructions given to the Town Attorney’s, there is advice given from the Town Attorney’s to us relative to dealing with personnel and issues relative to land acquisition etc.
Mr. Armistead stated I agree with you one hundred percent.
Mr. Griffin stated quite often, there are no decisions that come out of Executive Sessions. Mostly they are discussions how to handle personnel problems.
Mr. O’Connor stated I do recall fairly recently after Executive Session we made a decision to increase the hours for someone. Anything that has to be voted upon is done after we leave Executive Session.
Mr. Armistead stated I stand corrected.
Mr. O’Connor stated there aren’t many but I recall some.
Mr. Armistead stated tonight just before I came to the
meeting I looked at the Town Board minutes and they were from
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gone on at the Town Board meeting. If there are any corrections just like you do in any business you correct it at the next meeting and the correction is noted. If there is a mistake in a newspaper you’ll see it on maybe page 98 but it will be in there. By the time you get to the next Town Board meeting it is already over from the one five weeks before that. I think there should be something done. They are supposed to be done in two weeks. I would like to see the minutes posted a little earlier.
Mrs. Nacerino stated I understand your desire to have the minutes posted sooner then we have been. I am not sure we can actually post minutes until they have been formally approved.
Mr. Armistead stated yes you can. You can mark them draft. There are three titles you can give them to show they haven’t been approved yet.
Mrs. Nacerino stated I have never seen that on any Town web site as any common practice. I’m not entirely sure that is true.
Mr. Armistead stated the Town’s people seem to be so behind all the time on what is going on at the Town Board meetings.
Ms. Jean Hockney, Patterson, stated I would absolutely encourage this Board to reach out to the Town and its residents. Getting the communication out there, good, bad or indifferent you have a responsibility to all of us as taxpayers to let us know what is going on. I would absolutely say whatever you need to do to update that website, do it and put it up as a draft. Does the Board support video taping of this as other Towns do for our local cable channel. You can only read so much. You can gather so much more from the actual video tape. There are so many of us that work in this community we can’t get to every meeting. Do you support that.
Mr. Capasso stated I do.
Mr. Kassay stated you are asking two questions, one about the minutes and one about taping the meetings. Are you aware that we went down this road twice already.
Ms. Hockney stated which road.
Mr. Kassay stated we found it to be very political. There were items on the agenda that were
stacked. Comcast would only come here
and video the Town Board meeting for the first two hours. After that anybody else’s agenda or any kind
of rebuttal was taken away from us. It
was a dog and pony show that is what happened. The Town of
Ms. Hockney stated to do what.
Mr. Kassay stated to do the minutes. You can’t do these minutes in three or four hours. It takes time for a person to go through these tapes when there are four or five tapes per meeting and to try to get it as accurately as possible. The Town Clerk’s Deputy Town Clerk can do nothing else but minutes.
Ms. Hockney stated what do other Towns do to get them out.
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Mr. Kassay stated they probably have more personnel. If the folks in the Town want these minutes in three or four days, let her hire somebody just to do minutes.
Ms. Hockney stated with all due respect, here is what I am
seeing the agenda comes out at
Mr. Kassay stated Town law says that the agenda is supposed
to be ready forty-eight hours before the Town Board meeting. This particular Board depends on home
rule. We do not have a Work Session and
many things come into the Supervisor’s office or to the attention of the
Council Members the day before the Town Board meeting. The Supervisors Secretary usually gives the
agenda to the Town Clerk by
Ms. Hockney stated if we know what is on the agenda.
Mr. Kassay stated you would know about it because of the Work Session, which would take place one week before the Town Board meeting.
Ms. Hockney stated I wish I new the
Mr. Kassay stated we will see what we can do.
Ms. Hockney stated I agree wholeheartedly with everything
Amy Lagan said. I couldn’t be more
disappointed. It isn’t just about kids,
I recognize that and support that. It’s
about leadership and vision and what that
Mrs. Nacerino stated I support that wholeheartedly.
Ms. Hockney stated where can I see a condensed version of what is happening at the courthouse. I am interested in what and who is going to be housed over there. How many holding cells, what type of criminals.
Mr. Griffin stated no one is going to be housed in there at all.
Ms. Hockney stated so it is just a holding cell for someone who is picked up for a DWI.
Mr. Griffin stated yes.
Ms. Hockney stated three million dollars seems like an exorbitant amount for the courthouse. I know there is a grant.
Mr. Griffin stated I will send you all the necessary paperwork for you to read.
Mr. Kassay stated anyone that is arrested for DWI would not come to our courthouse they would go to the County jail.
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Mr. Raines stated it is important for the residents of this Town to understand that the use of this facility will be no different then the current courthouse.
Stacy Daminao stated school is about to end on Friday so I
wanted to bring up the issue of the sidewalks on
Mr. Kassay stated is that fence on school property.
Ms. Daminao stated yes along the baseball field.
Mr. Kassay stated that is school property.
Mrs. Nacerino stated yes that is school property.
Ms. Daminao stated there is not enough parking so the cars pull up on the sidewalk so we have to walk in the middle of the street.
Mrs. Nacerino stated have you spoken to anyone at the
Mr. Griffin stated the recourse is money. Governor Spitzer had put together a program called the “Safeway to Schools Program.” Mr. Williams filed for a grant. Spitzer is now gone and the program was dissolved and now we are chasing small city grants and some others. It is a financial issue.
Mrs. Nacerino stated I will look into this further.
Ms. Barbara Carlo, Dover Plains, I teach Kick Boxing at the
Mr. Kassay stated I would like to thank you and your
husband. There were many people that
were not happy with the leadership at the
Ms. Carlo stated thank you and I believe that was the correct thing to do. People have to see what is going on before they can judge it.
Ms. Amy Lagan stated Ms. Carlo I do not know you but I do
know your husband and both of your programs are very successful. You and your husband are leaders and you keep
your programs in line and I think that is why they are successful. I do know that Jean Scigliano was brought to
that
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someone stand here and say that it is running perfectly. If it was, I wouldn’t be here. I commend Ms. Carlo for coming here. Jeanne was stirring the pot.
Mrs. Nacerino stated she was the best candidate out of the
people we interviewed, which was prior to a list being generated by
Ms. Lagan stated you are being paid for that you are not doing that voluntarily.
Mrs. Nacerino stated I am paid for that but my hours are quite excessive for dedicating my time here. I spent a lot of time interviewing candidates and my assessment was that Jeanne was the best however, since then there has been a list…….
Ms. Lagan stated she was sabotaged by the little click down there that doesn’t want change and they don’t want to step forward. You should spend more time down there.
I am looking for my Town Board to go toward in a positive
direction for the
All parties continued to discuss the above topic.
Mr. Ray Blanar,
Town Board members thanked Mr. Blanar.
Mr. Steve Mandrass, Patterson, stated thank you Mr. Kassay
for the Public Hearings and getting that going.
Did you say that on
Mr. Kassay stated yes. The Highway Superintendent, Town Engineer and myself looked at the location again and we felt there was no need for a three way stop sign.
Mr. Mandrass stated I think it would be better for the Town to invest money into something all ages of people could go to and benefit from as opposed to a courthouse. Let’s rip the library out of where it is now, update it and get new computers. That wouldn’t cost four millions dollars to do that.
Mr. Griffin stated it could cost considerably more than that. We invest $432,000.00 a year right now. That is the annual taxpayer contribution to the library. Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on how you look at it they asked for another $222,000.00 a year. It would have taken them over $660,000.00 a year. That referendum did not pass. The
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Town isn’t under any obligation to provide library services and we are under state mandate to provide proper court facilities. We have been told for years by the judges that the facilities of the courthouse are inadequate. We all recognize that a twenty six hundred square foot library to serve thirteen thousand residents is totally inadequate. The library has expressed repeatedly that they wanted to stay in that location.
Mr. Griffin continued to speak on the library and the courthouse.
Mr. Mandrass stated given that it looks like we are not going to be getting $5,000.00 per month from a Verizon cell tower I asked about alternatives to being able to fund this project without it coming out of our pockets. Is there any news on this.
Mr. Griffin stated we are still looking. The new governor has put an end to many programs. I was surprised we kept our CHIPS money. The grant programs have been slashed.
Mr. Mandrass stated Mr. Capasso there has been a lot of
attention on this server at the
Mr. Capasso stated it runs the computers.
Mr. Mandrass stated so it is like the file server.
Mr. Dave Raines stated it networks.
Ms. Stephanie Fox,
Ms. Herodes stated all that is left to be done is for the road dedication documents to be signed and filed. The stipulation has been signed, the litigations are all done and we just need to do paperwork. It should be signed any day now.
Ms. Fox stated what is the next step after that.
Mr. Kassay stated the Highway Superintendent is already on board with building the road. He can’t schedule anything until we have the last document.
Ms. Herodes stated we have to do some resolutions and we
hope to have it on the agenda for the
Ms. Tammi Smith stated at last months meeting I also
addressed a speeding issue on
Mr. Kassay stated please compose a letter regarding the tree and the speeding and send it to me. I will copy the Highway Superintendent and Engineer and set up a meeting with him.
Mr. Kassay and Ms. Smith continued to discuss the issues on Front Streets and South Streets.
Ms. Smith stated you have to make the programs at the
Ms. Stacy Damiano stated when we moved here we specifically asked about the school buses going through our neighborhood and I was told the school buses are not allowed on
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Mr. Griffin stated it is a very difficult turn for the buses
to make onto
EXECUTIVE SESSION
There being no further business, Mr. Griffin made a motion to go into Executive Session at
Seconded by Mr. O’Connor. All In Favor: Aye. Carried.
Mrs. Nacerino made a motion
to close Executive Session at
Seconded by Mr. Kassay. All In Favor: Aye. Carried.
Mr. Griffin called the meeting back to order at
There being no further business, Mr. O’Connor made a motion
to adjourn the meeting at
Seconded by Mrs. Nacerino. All In Favor: aye. Carried.
Respectfully submitted,
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ANTOINETTE KOPECK, TOWN CLERK